@Erpel Thats almost cheap. I guess you do have more than one ISP to choose from. In my street they will soon install fiber but the prices from stadtwerke are joke.

Like I am sorry 250/50 for 60€ is a joke. Also why not symmetrical atleast...

@stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de @Erpel Germany. Asymmetrical everywhere. Be it bandwidth, prices or reliability.

@kura @Erpel Well atleast I get a "gurantee" for the advertised speed. That said they have symetrical stuff. But it begins at 89€ for 100/100 and the rest is "ask us"

@kura @Erpel that said everything is bettr than the 50/10 I have rn. And getting 5 times the speed for double the money does not sound tooo bad.

@stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de @kura For me it would be about 50% faster for the same money, but only if I use a router from them and thats something I really don't want to do!

@Erpel @stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de they can't force you though iirc.

@kura @stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de ofc they can't but they make it that way that those offerings are only valid when you use their hardware, so you can always choose to opt out, but then you won't have the "full" service you are paying for.

Vodafone does this shit e.g. with cable internet.
Use our crappy chinese plastic router and you get HD tv with it. Otherwise its an optional thinkg you have to pay extra.

They don't force you, but the offerings are optimized for their shitty hardware.