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So what are good smartphones that use Android, but without the Google surveillance fetish additions?

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  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

    So what are good smartphones that use Android, but without the Google surveillance fetish additions?

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    @volpeon >good smartphone
    no such thing
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    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

      So what are good smartphones that use Android, but without the Google surveillance fetish additions?

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      @volpeon basically nothing; best you can get is something with a good community to flash and degoogle it yourself
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        @volpeon >good smartphone
        no such thing
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        @papush @volpeon i want a pda but a clamshell design like the nintendo ds
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          @volpeon basically nothing; best you can get is something with a good community to flash and degoogle it yourself
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          @volpeon or if you're feeling spicy and can handle GSIs, you can get away with basically anything that shipped with Android One
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            @volpeon Anything that supports LineageOS or one of those other "custom ROM" Androids should work nicely. We're on Lineage personally.

            Check the supported devices page for your distro of choice before you buy. (e.g. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/)

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            @volpeon also of note: Lineage at least used to not come with microG for Google Play Services emulation. Which means proprietary apps generally wouldn't work.

            I think they changed that semirecently, but I don't know if it's included by default or not. So watch out for that during install if you need proprietary apps support. We don't really need that (and have no Google account to even get said proprietary apps with) but you might.

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              @volpeon also of note: Lineage at least used to not come with microG for Google Play Services emulation. Which means proprietary apps generally wouldn't work.

              I think they changed that semirecently, but I don't know if it's included by default or not. So watch out for that during install if you need proprietary apps support. We don't really need that (and have no Google account to even get said proprietary apps with) but you might.

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              @volpeon It'll come with F-Droid out of the box IIRC, so you will have an appstore in any case, Google or not. :3

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              • fristi@56k.dile-up.nlF fristi@56k.dile-up.nl
                @papush @volpeon i want a pda but a clamshell design like the nintendo ds
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                @fristi @volpeon i had a dumbphone with a slide-out, horizontal physical keyboard and it was great in terms of its form-factor but sadly its firmware sucked. i'd want this but with FOSS firmware
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                • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                  So what are good smartphones that use Android, but without the Google surveillance fetish additions?

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                  @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip I wonder how well linux with waydroid would work (assuming your device is even supported)

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                  • papush@outerheaven.clubP papush@outerheaven.club
                    @fristi @volpeon i had a dumbphone with a slide-out, horizontal physical keyboard and it was great in terms of its form-factor but sadly its firmware sucked. i'd want this but with FOSS firmware
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                    @papush @fristi My first smartphone was a Palm Pre. I loved that thing.

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                    • gettie@fedi.catto.gardenG gettie@fedi.catto.garden
                      @volpeon absolutely none. all of them suck.
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                      @gettie ​​

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