@Starkimarm@23.social Actually I don't trust Signal's president at all and I wouldn't be surprised if they are lying.

I can totally see LLM integration in proprietary apps like Signal happening in less than two years ago, regardless of what Meredith thinks today.

@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @Starkimarm@23.social i get having a baseline distrust of people in positions of power, but i think itd be good to do basic research before making claims like this about a specific individual.

reading for example just her wikipedia page would show you she's been involved with ai for years - as an advocate for caution and ethics. it is very apparent what her general stance on ai is.

of course the article could be wrong, but it seems like your argument is entirely predicated on proprietary apps being a bad thing and therefore every proprietary app must be suceptible to every bad thing any other proprietary app has done before without requiring further examination

@toatrika@plasmatrap.com @Starkimarm@23.social

but it seems like your argument is entirely predicated on proprietary apps being a bad thing and therefore every proprietary app must be suceptible to every bad thing any other proprietary app has done before without requiring further examination

This is exactly my argument. If proprietary software is not already malware, it will always become that over long enough time as the developers get more greedy. It always happens, no exceptions.

@SuperDicq @toatrika @Starkimarm But Signal is not proprietary...

@tris@chaos.social @toatrika@plasmatrap.com @Starkimarm@23.social If Signal is not proprietary then why can it not be included in F-Droid?

@SuperDicq @toatrika @Starkimarm It dependents on FCM (only used for waking system and not for sending actual notification). You can still use Molly, a Signal fork which doesn't dependent on FCM.

@tris@chaos.social @toatrika@plasmatrap.com @Starkimarm@23.social It doesn't matter what the dependency is used for, the fact that it is included means that the Signal application should be considered proprietary.

I've seen Molly and it claims to be Signal without blobs, but Molly is also not available in F-Droid. So I wonder what's wrong with Molly?

@SuperDicq @toatrika @Starkimarm @tris F-Droid isn't a good or safe way to get open source apps. It adds another group of people as a trusted party who have demonstrated disregard for basic security and user safety. There are a huge number of high quality open source apps not available in F-Droid and many developers don't want their apps packaged there. Apps not being included in F-Droid's main repository doesn't mean they aren't fully open source. Molly has a fully open source variant.

@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @toatrika@plasmatrap.com @Starkimarm@23.social @tris@chaos.social

F-Droid isn't a good or safe way to get open source apps.

Hey Graphene, I don't think you're in a great you're in a great position right now to criticize other projects (especially ones that do actually care about software freedom, like F-Droid).

How's your partnership with Google working out right now regarding the access to those shitty Pixel phone blobs?

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