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  3. I knew something was fishy when they tried to get everyone to switch from saying "child porn" to "CSAM" and I think I'm starting to see what.

I knew something was fishy when they tried to get everyone to switch from saying "child porn" to "CSAM" and I think I'm starting to see what.

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  • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

    @pettanko@tsundere.love I want to know more about this story about the Norwegian man. Is there a source for this?

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    @SuperDicq this is the only link anyone actually shared https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/mP75B0/ung-mann-doemt-etter-aa-ha-spilt-dette-spillet
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      @SuperDicq this is the only link anyone actually shared https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/mP75B0/ung-mann-doemt-etter-aa-ha-spilt-dette-spillet
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      @pettanko@tsundere.love A single article that I can't even read because of a paywall. I am starting to doubt the validity of this story.

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      • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

        @pettanko@tsundere.love A single article that I can't even read because of a paywall. I am starting to doubt the validity of this story.

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        @SuperDicq @pettanko All the article says is; "I en fersk dom fra Sør-Rogaland tingrett slås det fast at det japanske PC-spillet er overgrepsmateriale. Retten mener at spillet alene ville vært et forelegg, men den unge mannen hadde også delt svært grovt overgrepsmateriale."

        Not paywalled if you don't run proprietary malware.
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          @SuperDicq @pettanko All the article says is; "I en fersk dom fra Sør-Rogaland tingrett slås det fast at det japanske PC-spillet er overgrepsmateriale. Retten mener at spillet alene ville vært et forelegg, men den unge mannen hadde også delt svært grovt overgrepsmateriale."

          Not paywalled if you don't run proprietary malware.
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          @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I'm going to assume that is not the full article.

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          • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

            @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I'm going to assume that is not the full article.

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            @SuperDicq @pettanko I figure a 50/50 chance it is considering the state of typical "journalism" nowadays.
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              @SuperDicq @pettanko I figure a 50/50 chance it is considering the state of typical "journalism" nowadays.
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              @SuperDicq @pettanko >Inspects element.
              Yes, the actual article text is proprietarywalled.
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                @SuperDicq @pettanko >Inspects element.
                Yes, the actual article text is proprietarywalled.
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                @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love As I said. We have no context to go off on. I'm sure he wasn't arrested for playing a video game alone, he probably did something else.

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                • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

                  @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love As I said. We have no context to go off on. I'm sure he wasn't arrested for playing a video game alone, he probably did something else.

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                  @SuperDicq @pettanko From the limited text it seems he could have also collected pizza, but that is unclear.

                  In many countries you can get arrested for playing forbidden video games - it's just that such kind of forbidden games are generally only run outside of public view.
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                    @SuperDicq @pettanko From the limited text it seems he could have also collected pizza, but that is unclear.

                    In many countries you can get arrested for playing forbidden video games - it's just that such kind of forbidden games are generally only run outside of public view.
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                    @SuperDicq @pettanko >Only 4chan has a free copy of the article; https://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/216690156

                    Well I can't read that.
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                      @SuperDicq @pettanko >Only 4chan has a free copy of the article; https://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/216690156

                      Well I can't read that.
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                      @SuperDicq @pettanko It seems he was arrested for "abuse material", although the article doesn't make it clear if it was for fictional drawings or pizza.

                      Looks like he was indeed arrested for drawings.
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                        @SuperDicq @pettanko It seems he was arrested for "abuse material", although the article doesn't make it clear if it was for fictional drawings or pizza.

                        Looks like he was indeed arrested for drawings.
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                        @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Goddamn I hate journos so much. I think there should be no ambiguity to make it clear if the dude is just a gooner or has the actual pizza.

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                        • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

                          @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Goddamn I hate journos so much. I think there should be no ambiguity to make it clear if the dude is just a gooner or has the actual pizza.

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                          @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki The ambiguity is intentional because they want you thrown in jail for both.
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                            @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki The ambiguity is intentional because they want you thrown in jail for both.
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                            @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com As far as I know in the Netherlands I don't think drawings can be classified as child porn.

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                              @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com As far as I know in the Netherlands I don't think drawings can be classified as child porn.

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                              @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Yeah but I'm sure many Dutch journalists disagree with that.
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                                @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Yeah but I'm sure many Dutch journalists disagree with that.
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                                @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Even the English wikipedia article Suiseiseki linked agrees with me where in court the precedence about this law has been set that images are only illegal if are unmistakable from reality by the average viewer.

                                I think that makes it very clear that anime drawings can't be illegal.

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                                  @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Even the English wikipedia article Suiseiseki linked agrees with me where in court the precedence about this law has been set that images are only illegal if are unmistakable from reality by the average viewer.

                                  I think that makes it very clear that anime drawings can't be illegal.

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                                  @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Anyway I had never heard about this game but it looks interesting so I think I'm gonna enjoy playing some 奴隷との生活 when I get home just because I can to celebrate living in a country that doesn't put people in jail for owning drawings.

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                                    @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Anyway I had never heard about this game but it looks interesting so I think I'm gonna enjoy playing some 奴隷との生活 when I get home just because I can to celebrate living in a country that doesn't put people in jail for owning drawings.

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                                    @SuperDicq @pettanko You shouldn't run such game, simply because it's proprietary software.

                                    If it was free software, then there wouldn't be a reason not to run it, but why?
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                                      @SuperDicq @pettanko You shouldn't run such game, simply because it's proprietary software.

                                      If it was free software, then there wouldn't be a reason not to run it, but why?
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                                      @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love But I'm already doing my part writing a free software game engine replacement for a game that contains sexual content considered taboo by most western countries. Maybe I'll work on another one when this one is done.

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                                      • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

                                        @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love But I'm already doing my part writing a free software game engine replacement for a game that contains sexual content considered taboo by most western countries. Maybe I'll work on another one when this one is done.

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                                        @SuperDicq @pettanko After glancing at the game script files, it seems that the characters are 18 and she's not your sister, which isn't particularly taboo in western countries.

                                        Apparently someone did exercise their freedom to release a version which "fixed" such perceived flaws.
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                                          @SuperDicq @pettanko After glancing at the game script files, it seems that the characters are 18 and she's not your sister, which isn't particularly taboo in western countries.

                                          Apparently someone did exercise their freedom to release a version which "fixed" such perceived flaws.
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                                          @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Also if you've read the script files maybe you could write a parser for them using GNU Bison so we can port the game to GNU C instead of Python.

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