@MagicLike termux and shizuku are the easiest when one wants to keep stuff on the same device (all one needs to do is temporarily expose wireless debugging but that can be en- and disabled within 5 seconds basically since that's how fast shizuku typically is with enabling itself via wireless debugging)

@MagicLike doesn't work, at least in its experience.

@sophie @hypha that too! well tbf it'd be more like "cargo run" in its case since it wouldn't use Nix for that

@sophie @hypha @awoo nix on android works surprisingly well though!

@awoo nawww would have been a nice cursed experiment

@49016 @sophie @hypha WHAT

it wants to learn more about that now

@awoo @sophie @hypha there's a termux fork that just bootstraps a chroot with nix lol

@49016 @sophie @hypha damn! :3

oh no now it wants to give nix another try-

@awoo @49016 @hypha hehehehe join us in the nix,, :3

@sophie @49016 @hypha on one hand, it would really love to

on the other, it still has ptsd from trying to use nix for a year and effectively torturing itself with configs that broke pretty quickly because they suddenly decided to remove a package from nixpkgs while technically still not even having anything reproducible (it couldn't just take its nix config and throw it onto another computer and have everything the same way)

@awoo well termux (the terminal + "distro") provides a package manager and a manageable environment. or you can use the new vm stuff

@awoo @sophie @hypha nix can be a bit of a pain in the ass but in its opinion it can pay out in the end

@chfour thing is, it really would like to have something directly on android instead of via termux (which, in terms of resource monitors, has limitations imposed by google (it can only see itself and the total usage maybe)) or via the android virtualisation framework thingy (which only sees itself because it's a VM)

@49016 @sophie @hypha but arch is too comfy to move

@awoo@gts.apicrim.es @49016 @sophie nix can be installed on arch

@hypha @49016 @sophie thing is, either it starts over with nixos, or it just stays on arch. it can't just mix-and-match since that will result in this one half-assing configurations instead of building something properly for once.

@chfour oh and google recently broke file access for apps like termux since it can't even access /storage/emulated/0 via termux anymore. all it gets is a cd: /storage/emulated/0: Permission denied.

btw can any(one, thing) recommend a good linux(-compatible) phone that doesn't cost a fuckton

@awoo isn't like every older phone compatible with postmarketOS?

@alina the only older phone that it has that's somewhat compatible with pmOS is its Samsung Galaxy S3 mini. the rest is either an iPhone or a Huawei phone from after they made it practically impossible to unlock the bootloader