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  3. Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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    @ki @volpeon apparently LLM's tend to use them relatively frequently and now people got the brainworm that any text containing one is 100% LLM crap 😕

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    @glowl @volpeon
    what the fuck, so we can't have orthography anymore? nah, I'm still gonna be dashing all over the place
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    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

      Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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      @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip please don’t ⸻ don’t do that

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      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

        Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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        @volpeon What the heck is that character even supposed to be for…

        Now I want "…" with moar length.
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        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

          Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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          @volpeon Fuck horizontal em dashes︱all my homies use U+FE31 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL EM DASH.

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          • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

            Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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            @volpeon @Binder erm-dashes

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            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

              Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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              @volpeon Well…
              -
              –
              —
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              ⸻
              Look, the entire family is here!

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              • ki@chaos.socialK ki@chaos.social

                @volpeon
                wait, what? LLMs ruined em dashes? how? is nothing sacred anymore?

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                @ki LLMs have stolen so much content from human-written books, they now try to use em-dashes as often as human writers do. But as a result, some not-very-bright people have now decided that any text that contains em-dashes is LLM-generated. @volpeon

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                • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                  Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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                  @volpeon Meanwhile, the humble en dash:

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                  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                    Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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                    @volpeon 3M Dashes™

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                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                      Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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                      @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip bold ⸻⸻⸻ but understandable

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                      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                        Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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                        @volpeon ngl I actually just use two dashes-- because I'm far too lazy to find/memorize the unicode or compose key combo for it :'3

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                        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                          Since LLMs ruined em dashes, I will switch to 3-em dashes ⸻ enjoy.

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                          @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip LLMs ruined nothing. You will take my em dashes from my cold, dead hands

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                          • anthropy@mastodon.derg.nzA anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz

                            @volpeon ngl I actually just use two dashes-- because I'm far too lazy to find/memorize the unicode or compose key combo for it :'3

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                            @anthropy I started doing them properly once I realized on Linux they're simple to enter with Shift+Alt+- (also Alt+- for en dash). ​​

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                              @anthropy I started doing them properly once I realized on Linux they're simple to enter with Shift+Alt+- (also Alt+- for en dash). ​​

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                              @volpeon which desktop is that? for me it doesn't work (plasma, fedora 42). I think that requires compose keys to be on which I don't even have right now xD I tend to default to whatever is available the most widely; also on smartphones and other devices and (CLI) environments normal dashes are more accessible I guess.

                              But just because I'm curious, let's try turn on compose keys ­— .. no actually it's compose key + hit - a few times? which is intuitive but I don't always have this available ig

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                                @volpeon which desktop is that? for me it doesn't work (plasma, fedora 42). I think that requires compose keys to be on which I don't even have right now xD I tend to default to whatever is available the most widely; also on smartphones and other devices and (CLI) environments normal dashes are more accessible I guess.

                                But just because I'm curious, let's try turn on compose keys ­— .. no actually it's compose key + hit - a few times? which is intuitive but I don't always have this available ig

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                                @anthropy GNOME, but I think I could do it before on other DEs. I never intentionally enabled anything fancy, I just went with the "de" keyboard layout in the installer and it just worked™ ​​

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                                  @anthropy GNOME, but I think I could do it before on other DEs. I never intentionally enabled anything fancy, I just went with the "de" keyboard layout in the installer and it just worked™ ​​

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                                  @anthropy Compose key is disabled, but there's a setting to type alternate symbols with the right Alt key. That must be it since Alt(left)+- does nothing

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