the fact that the Internet Archive got into bigger trouble for lending books they paid for than Facebook did for reproducing books they pirated tells you everything you need to know about copyright.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne how do you make something restricted online then? If you think of DRM, name at least one that hasn't been broken and/or wasn't a nuisance for those who legally own a piece of media?
Also what stops one from scanning a book that was lent from the library? Should real life libraries be banned too then?@a1ba @Yuvalne - Only the law stops one from copying a book borrowed form a library. But Libraries don't themselves make unlimited numbers of printed copies. They only lend the copy they bought. It's not about what those who get copies from IA do. IA *itself*, unlike a library, is making the unauthorized copies.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne how do you make something restricted online then? If you think of DRM, name at least one that hasn't been broken and/or wasn't a nuisance for those who legally own a piece of media?
Also what stops one from scanning a book that was lent from the library? Should real life libraries be banned too then?@a1ba @Yuvalne - Many writers *already* make works included in previously-published books available online in non-DRM formats. But IA *refuses* even to talk to writers about letting us add pointers to these authorized editions to IA index pages. IA insists on telling visitors *only* about its own bootleg versions, even when better, authorized versions exist.
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@a1ba @Yuvalne - Only the law stops one from copying a book borrowed form a library. But Libraries don't themselves make unlimited numbers of printed copies. They only lend the copy they bought. It's not about what those who get copies from IA do. IA *itself*, unlike a library, is making the unauthorized copies.
@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne neither does IA actually. If you don't want to create another unauthorized copy of a book, then just don't download it. -
@a1ba @Yuvalne - Many writers *already* make works included in previously-published books available online in non-DRM formats. But IA *refuses* even to talk to writers about letting us add pointers to these authorized editions to IA index pages. IA insists on telling visitors *only* about its own bootleg versions, even when better, authorized versions exist.
@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne is there a source for that claim? I don't think IA wants to be involved in piracy, but you just can't preserve media in any other way other than letting everybody to have free (as in freedom) access to the information. -
@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne neither does IA actually. If you don't want to create another unauthorized copy of a book, then just don't download it.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne it doesn't, it just sends data. It's up to receiver side what to do with it.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne it doesn't, it just sends data. It's up to receiver side what to do with it.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne so we should ban internet then
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne my point is that it's up to you what to do with the information you received. If you can only think of anything online (because all web server does is copying) as a piracy, it's just your problem. Maybe you should stop pirating others work by stopping browsing the internet.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne my point is that it's up to you what to do with the information you received. If you can only think of anything online (because all web server does is copying) as a piracy, it's just your problem. Maybe you should stop pirating others work by stopping browsing the internet.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne it's a library, they don't need your permission.
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@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne it's a library, they don't need your permission.@ehasbrouck @Yuvalne besides, you can upload stuff and put the links in the description yourself.
