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By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis.

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    @alexia also another reason for writing small, optimized software is that you can utilize so much more of your computer. which leads to cool things like saving battery life
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    @pastthepixels @alexia Yeah, the battery life!

    I was amused, when read the lines about importance of writing power efficient applications in the "Palm Design Guide".

    I don't remember the exact quote. Something like this: "Battery power is important, especially for users in the business trip. Don't write your applications like user is able to charge it's own device every time before the sleep"

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    • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
      By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

      This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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      @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work I stopped using Anubis because I found better alternatives, and currently there's nothing in between.

      I dropped it because it drove people off and broke many things such as git

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        @carbonatedcaffeine

        honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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        @alexia I think it will be feasible. Hopefully applications won't require 8GB of memory just to function in the future. That would be absurd.

        My main concern is the availability of battery replacements. It would make it much easier if there was a battery size and connection standard in the future. But since all phones are different shapes and sizes that wouldn't work.

        The Fairphone is probably the best in terms of what we want. But it's a lot of money and isn't available to purchase from my country. The PinePhone also uses a J7 sized battery which can still be found on ebay. But the device isn't made to last.

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        • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
          By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

          This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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          @alexia And thus, not only does it not actually accomplish anything, it also entirely blocks legitimate users.

          Impressive⸮
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          • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
            mind you, technically I CAN install firefox, however on hardware that has:

            - 900 **mega**bytes of RAM
            - 4 CPU cores clocked at ~1.3 gigahertz
            - Android 7
            - 32Bit SoC

            it's........less than serviceable in comparison to Chromium 66. Yes, chromium 66. That's what comes shipped and I've yet to find ARM 32bit builds newer than this which install on this architecture and device.
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            @alexia my phone has 8 cores, 2 Cortex-A73 and 6 Cortex-A53, a whole 2 GIGABYTES of ram, and still, that isn't enough to run certain apps properly

            the discord emoji picker ? it OOMs the entire phone if i open it. Websites ? be it chromium or firefox, a website will take 10 seconds to actually show up, even without anubis.

            with anubis, that shoots up to a minute. But! i can have modern browsers so anubis does work, it's just, really slow

            which, i get it, it's the whole point, but come on.

            this isn't that old of a phone, it's barely 6 years old.

            mobile first webdev my ass

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              @alexia my phone has 8 cores, 2 Cortex-A73 and 6 Cortex-A53, a whole 2 GIGABYTES of ram, and still, that isn't enough to run certain apps properly

              the discord emoji picker ? it OOMs the entire phone if i open it. Websites ? be it chromium or firefox, a website will take 10 seconds to actually show up, even without anubis.

              with anubis, that shoots up to a minute. But! i can have modern browsers so anubis does work, it's just, really slow

              which, i get it, it's the whole point, but come on.

              this isn't that old of a phone, it's barely 6 years old.

              mobile first webdev my ass

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              @SRAZKVT @alexia mobile first (has to be this year's phone)

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              • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
                @sneexy Until the Pixel 7 arrives somewhere between 18th and 23rd of this month, I am stuck with:

                - Moto C Plus
                (32bit, armv6, Android 7, modded)
                - ZTE Blade A34
                (64bit, armv7?, Android 13, stock, cannot unlock)
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                @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @sneexy@booping.synth.download oh you poor poor soul who has to use a non-pixel phone for two weeks and develop empathy for others who are stuck on obsolete versions of Android with no custom ROMs... that ZTE blade has a newer version of Android than my phone yet you're whining about it?

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                  @carbonatedcaffeine

                  honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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                  @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems I'm going to be trying my best to keep my current PC for that long, previous PC held strong for almost 7 years before I managed to earn some funds for a new one in 2021. Old hardware is still sitting here ofc, ready to serve as a retro machine or backup PC if needed (although I also have a steamdeck now)

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                    This is all I get.
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                    @alexia you could change your user agent

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                    • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
                      By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                      This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                      @alexia may I suggest Pale Moon as a workaround?

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                      • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
                        @enjarai @aurakle I've also added a caddy rule to redirect brave users to the "Please stop using Brave" post
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                        @alexia @enjarai @aurakle Okay, that's amazing. Can you link to that post? I want to do my part too.

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                        • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
                          I think the biggest statement that I want to make here is this:

                          Software should be efficient, and fast. We've all forgotten what it means to be on a platform that is restricted ever since our computing resources started going up, and this is where it left us.

                          Those less fortunate are unable to view even the simplest pages because there is software in front that simply won't run on my device.

                          Our software isn't quick or snappy anymore, to the point where any software which IS quick or snappy markets itself as being so. It has become a marketing feature.

                          Sure, all our new fancy tech is quite nice, but let's not forget that
                          not everyone is as fortunate.

                          I am very glad that there's tools which work even on the cheapest or oldest devices.
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                          @alexia@starlightnet.work that's one of the reason i like how my website is light and efficient regardless of your hardware of internet speed
                          even with the slowest network simulation on firefox it loads so fast :3

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                          • alexia@starlightnet.workA alexia@starlightnet.work
                            By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                            This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                            @alexia I finally cracked and installed Anubis on a niche service which was getting pounded, since the options were to either use Anubis or turn off the service.

                            My use of Anubis isn't a great solution, but it was the least-worst choice. Either way, you were not going to be able to visit the site.

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                              I think the biggest statement that I want to make here is this:

                              Software should be efficient, and fast. We've all forgotten what it means to be on a platform that is restricted ever since our computing resources started going up, and this is where it left us.

                              Those less fortunate are unable to view even the simplest pages because there is software in front that simply won't run on my device.

                              Our software isn't quick or snappy anymore, to the point where any software which IS quick or snappy markets itself as being so. It has become a marketing feature.

                              Sure, all our new fancy tech is quite nice, but let's not forget that
                              not everyone is as fortunate.

                              I am very glad that there's tools which work even on the cheapest or oldest devices.
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                              @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work

                              Software should be efficient, and fast. We've all forgotten what it means to be on a platform that is restricted ever since our computing resources started going up, and this is where it left us.
                              It isn't even good on high end hardware ​​ Tbh it gives me a vibe of a commercially-funneled open source project (or just the team who really wants to commercialize their idea without a well-defined principle), but it is unclear to me the team even have the experience of designing performance related software.

                              To me this is an "apathy" based defense: the assumption always is an attacker won't bother to optimize or pay for rigs. But if that is the case (1) the "defense" shouldn't get "harder": that just frustrate the hell out of lgtm visitors without imposing real cost barrier on attacks (2) you shouldn't encourage a monoculture of identical rules and challenge scheme on all your users, that concentrates risk of complete breakage.

                              Thanks for letting me know of Locaine, it looks like a pragmatic solution: ticks all my checkmarks: security by diversity; no magical thinking; not being the weakest link yourself.

                              https://yumechi.jp/en/blog/2025/proof-of-mutex-outspeeding-anubis-with-valid-pow/

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                                @alexia @enjarai @aurakle Okay, that's amazing. Can you link to that post? I want to do my part too.

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                                @KFears @enjarai @aurakle

                                sure 🙂

                                www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
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                                  @alexia may I suggest Pale Moon as a workaround?

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                                  @echedellelr No.

                                  For one, that isn't even on Android, and also they consider accessibility features "bloat" which makes the entire project a no-go for me.
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                                    @alexia you could change your user agent

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                                    @crmsnbleyd not always, that is very much dependant on the configuration.

                                    I would know, because I used to have Anubis set up.
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                                      @sneexy Until the Pixel 7 arrives somewhere between 18th and 23rd of this month, I am stuck with:

                                      - Moto C Plus
                                      (32bit, armv6, Android 7, modded)
                                      - ZTE Blade A34
                                      (64bit, armv7?, Android 13, stock, cannot unlock)
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                                      @alexia@starlightnet.work @sneexy@booping.synth.download you can probably get firefox on at least the latter one

                                      fuck anubis though.

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                                        @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @sneexy@booping.synth.download oh you poor poor soul who has to use a non-pixel phone for two weeks and develop empathy for others who are stuck on obsolete versions of Android with no custom ROMs... that ZTE blade has a newer version of Android than my phone yet you're whining about it?

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                                        @cuddlebug @sneexy

                                        My brother in Christ shut the fuck up nobody asked for your shitty opinion
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                                          @alexia@starlightnet.work @sneexy@booping.synth.download you can probably get firefox on at least the latter one

                                          fuck anubis though.

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                                          @soop @sneexy

                                          I can get Firefox on both but it's genuinely unbearably slow on both
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