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  3. I don't like how Anubis is starting to become regarded as some sort of holy savior project with an annoying fandom that doesn't want listen to any criticisms pretending a piece of Javascript literally designed to waste CPU cycles is literally the only ...

I don't like how Anubis is starting to become regarded as some sort of holy savior project with an annoying fandom that doesn't want listen to any criticisms pretending a piece of Javascript literally designed to waste CPU cycles is literally the only ...

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    I don't like how Anubis is starting to become regarded as some sort of holy savior project with an annoying fandom that doesn't want listen to any criticisms pretending a piece of Javascript literally designed to waste CPU cycles is literally the only solution to the bot issue, while many other better options exist.

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    • superdicq@minidisc.tokyoS superdicq@minidisc.tokyo

      I don't like how Anubis is starting to become regarded as some sort of holy savior project with an annoying fandom that doesn't want listen to any criticisms pretending a piece of Javascript literally designed to waste CPU cycles is literally the only solution to the bot issue, while many other better options exist.

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      @SuperDicq I wanted to use it on my server, but honestly I don't understand the intention. Is it supposed to punish misbehaving bots that pretend to be real browser? Well, sure, but isn't it just a temporary solution?
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        I don't like how Anubis is starting to become regarded as some sort of holy savior project with an annoying fandom that doesn't want listen to any criticisms pretending a piece of Javascript literally designed to waste CPU cycles is literally the only solution to the bot issue, while many other better options exist.

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        @SuperDicq just change your user-agent to something without Mozilla

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          @SuperDicq just change your user-agent to something without Mozilla

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          @mittorn@masturbated.one If it is that easy to circumvent how does even keep bots out? Are bots really top stupid to change their user agent?

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            @mittorn@masturbated.one If it is that easy to circumvent how does even keep bots out? Are bots really top stupid to change their user agent?

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            @SuperDicq @mittorn that's what I mean by temporary.

            It's not too hard for them to randomize user agents. What software like Anubis is going to do with randomized user agents? Block them? What if it's a valid real user then?
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              @SuperDicq @mittorn that's what I mean by temporary.

              It's not too hard for them to randomize user agents. What software like Anubis is going to do with randomized user agents? Block them? What if it's a valid real user then?
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              @a1ba @SuperDicq https://github.com/sleeyax/anubis-solver

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                @a1ba @SuperDicq https://github.com/sleeyax/anubis-solver

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                @mittorn @SuperDicq I also don't think scraper bots won't run PoW in near future.

                Those who run scrapers definitely don't care about electricity bills because they already waste a lot on GPUs that train LLMs.
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                  @mittorn @SuperDicq I also don't think scraper bots won't run PoW in near future.

                  Those who run scrapers definitely don't care about electricity bills because they already waste a lot on GPUs that train LLMs.
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                  @mittorn @SuperDicq and if a low-end phone can run Anubis PoW challenge, so can run scrapers in mass. Real computers are fast you know.
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                    @mittorn @SuperDicq I also don't think scraper bots won't run PoW in near future.

                    Those who run scrapers definitely don't care about electricity bills because they already waste a lot on GPUs that train LLMs.
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                    @a1ba@suya.place @mittorn@masturbated.one @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo tbh there is a question of when the cost of getting extra training data outgrows the value of said extra training data, or makes it worth to scrape more resourcefully than simply "spray and pray" that most AI scrapers seem to do

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                      @a1ba@suya.place @mittorn@masturbated.one @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo tbh there is a question of when the cost of getting extra training data outgrows the value of said extra training data, or makes it worth to scrape more resourcefully than simply "spray and pray" that most AI scrapers seem to do

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                      @ignaloidas @SuperDicq @mittorn they already scraped whole internet and want more. What do you think?
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