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  • pixel@desu.socialP pixel@desu.social

    @volpeon we need Blogger back so that people can spin up blogs easier to make longform posts in a non-feed fashion.

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    @pixel @volpeon we do have blogging implementations on here that are as easy to get started tbh (no need to host one yourself)
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    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

      "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
      *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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      @volpeon Honestly, the argument that "character limits prevent posts from getting too long" always feels like ableism to me

      Let me infodump about a niche topic that I know too much about, for fuck sake

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      • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
        @pixel @volpeon we do have blogging implementations on here that are as easy to get started tbh (no need to host one yourself)
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        @stefan @volpeon if it's that easy, why does nobody use it? ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‰

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        • pixel@desu.socialP pixel@desu.social

          @stefan @volpeon if it's that easy, why does nobody use it? ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‰

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          @pixel @volpeon it is easy but that does not mean its desirable. Microblogging just be more engaging and feedback is more instant
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          • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

            "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
            *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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            @volpeon or worse, write text in paint and upload it as an image

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            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

              "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
              *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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              @volpeon Guy in the comments: @ threadreaderapp please unroll

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              • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                @volpeon The difference being you can scroll past the first post in a thread pretty easily. A novel in my timeline is a pain in the dick to scroll past.

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                • woe2you@toot.walesW woe2you@toot.wales

                  @volpeon The difference being you can scroll past the first post in a thread pretty easily. A novel in my timeline is a pain in the dick to scroll past.

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                  @woe2you I don't think I've ever used a frontend that won't collapse longer posts automatically

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                  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                    @woe2you I don't think I've ever used a frontend that won't collapse longer posts automatically

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                    @volpeon I can't find that setting in Mastodon for Android, and if it exists at all it's off by default.

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                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                      @woe2you I don't think I've ever used a frontend that won't collapse longer posts automatically

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                      It depends heavily on the frontend. Maybe Wafrn will be fine for it since its UI is derived from Tumblr, maybe Misskey might suit it better or on par? But Mastodon? Hoh boy.

                      Said it before but when I saw a longer post than normal coming from Mastodon, my brain switches off, and the collapse feature doesn't help there either since it's an issue with the reading experience. Maybe it'd be slightly better now I'm on Elvanse but Mastodon is certainly not good for that, and when a strong part of fedi is interoperability that becomes a problem quick when people post passionately about their subject and I just have to skip the post.

                      (on that note: on the ATProto end, Leaflet.pub seems to be popular for long-form blogging/notes with those a bit more aware of the protocol)

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                      • flaky@app.wafrn.netF flaky@app.wafrn.net

                        It depends heavily on the frontend. Maybe Wafrn will be fine for it since its UI is derived from Tumblr, maybe Misskey might suit it better or on par? But Mastodon? Hoh boy.

                        Said it before but when I saw a longer post than normal coming from Mastodon, my brain switches off, and the collapse feature doesn't help there either since it's an issue with the reading experience. Maybe it'd be slightly better now I'm on Elvanse but Mastodon is certainly not good for that, and when a strong part of fedi is interoperability that becomes a problem quick when people post passionately about their subject and I just have to skip the post.

                        (on that note: on the ATProto end, Leaflet.pub seems to be popular for long-form blogging/notes with those a bit more aware of the protocol)

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                        basically, the fediverse if misskey was the reference instead of mastodon:

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                        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                          "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                          *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                          @volpeon for many years on birdsite I used the hashtag #getafuckingblog.

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                          • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                            "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                            *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                            @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip haven't you made that joke like ages ago? โ€‹โ€‹

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                            • puniko@mk.absturztau.beP puniko@mk.absturztau.be

                              @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip haven't you made that joke like ages ago? โ€‹โ€‹

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                              @puniko Probably โ€‹โ€‹

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                              • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                                *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                                @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip this is so true, i have no character limit and my posts are really long (attached post unrelated)

                                RE: https://catwithaclari.net/notes/af2s9vm2dfxx0lwj

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                                • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                  @woe2you I don't think I've ever used a frontend that won't collapse longer posts automatically

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                                  @volpeon @woe2you I did but I also made a patch to fix it ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/8205 (2018-08-14โ€ฆ wow that was a long time ago)
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                                    @volpeon Honestly, the argument that "character limits prevent posts from getting too long" always feels like ableism to me

                                    Let me infodump about a niche topic that I know too much about, for fuck sake

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                                    @grunge_fox @volpeon

                                    Beige blesses us with an obscene character count

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                                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                      "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                                      *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                                      @volpeon It just needs one of those "+"/"-" expandy buttons so I can collapse the really long posts and not have to scroll past it all. :T

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                                      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                        "Microblogging needs a character limit. Otherwise everyone would just write essays"
                                        *proceeds to write a thread with 32 posts*

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                                        @volpeon limits are silly, this is why bad ideas such as twitlonger came to existence

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                                        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                          @woe2you I don't think I've ever used a frontend that won't collapse longer posts automatically

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                                          @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip @woe2you@toot.wales on the other hand, i can't collapse threaded posts into one

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