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Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

    Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

    pixel@desu.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @volpeon to be honest, it's not hard to have "Powershell commands I never knew" because you can go as far as building full Windows Forms UI's with it.

    (and aside that, the command names suck)

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    • pixel@desu.socialP pixel@desu.social

      @volpeon to be honest, it's not hard to have "Powershell commands I never knew" because you can go as far as building full Windows Forms UI's with it.

      (and aside that, the command names suck)

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      @pixel Wait, really, you can build UIs with it? ​​

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      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

        @pixel Wait, really, you can build UIs with it? ​​

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        @volpeon https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/samples/creating-a-custom-input-box?view=powershell-7.5

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        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

          @pixel Wait, really, you can build UIs with it? ​​

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          @volpeon @pixel you have access to all of the .NET framework so yeah you can do anything, there even are IDEs that let you design UIs and generate the powershell code

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          • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

            Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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            @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip wait, thats an ad? theyre promoting this as if it was a good thing???

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            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

              Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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              @volpeon wouldnt suprise me if this isnt trying the same route as the fake captchas to get users to input commands into a terminal of some sorts. Like okay straight up malware but with this context the user doesnt question the cmd popping up

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                @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip wait, thats an ad? theyre promoting this as if it was a good thing???

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                @stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip unless i sinply don't understand the appeal et it means exactly what it says, i think it's trying to say that it stopped unwanted commands from running?
                but given my familiarity with the concept of the warp term, i would not be surprised if the former was true.

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                  @volpeon i mean that sounds like hell but don't we all just copy random commands off SO/github anyway

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                  @tay@tech.lgbt @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip but like we don't consider that a good thing, let alone an advertisable feature

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                    @stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip unless i sinply don't understand the appeal et it means exactly what it says, i think it's trying to say that it stopped unwanted commands from running?
                    but given my familiarity with the concept of the warp term, i would not be surprised if the former was true.

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                    @piku@blahaj.zone @stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip pretty sure it just runs some "AI" generated commands as Warp's shtick is a lot of ads about an "AI"-based terminal that requires login and a network connection

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                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                      @pixel Wait, really, you can build UIs with it? ​​

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                      @volpeon @pixel You can use the entire .NET framework from within PowerShell scripts, AFAIK!

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                        @tay@tech.lgbt @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip but like we don't consider that a good thing, let alone an advertisable feature

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                        @piku @volpeon oh wait _that's an **ad**_????

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                          @piku @volpeon oh wait _that's an **ad**_????

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                          @tay@tech.lgbt @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip yep
                          note the dim text promoted after the dot next to the username
                          reddit ad so the main body is a screenshot with a link to their website if you click under it

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                            @tay@tech.lgbt @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip yep
                            note the dim text promoted after the dot next to the username
                            reddit ad so the main body is a screenshot with a link to their website if you click under it

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                            @piku @volpeon yeah i glossed over the part at the top. yeah that's, questionable marketing at best

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                            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                              Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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                              @volpeon "it started running powershell commands I never knew" is not the flex they think it is, IMO.

                              Ah yes, let's train people to run rando commands without knowing or caring what they do, that'll go well! It's bad enough when the strange commands are written by actual people...

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                              • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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                                @volpeon

                                What could possibly go wrong?

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                                  @volpeon i mean that sounds like hell but don't we all just copy random commands off SO/github anyway

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                                  @tay@tech.lgbt @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip sure, but we also have at least an inkling of what those commands actually do

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                                  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                    Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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                                    @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip I tried out Warp when it was very early and for Mac only because I thought it would be helpful when working with commands I know about, but don’t use often and so don’t remember every detail of the syntax.

                                    I stopped using it when the time it took me to actually write down what I wanted in prose and the time it took me to understand what I’m about to execute was
                                    much longer than what it would have taken me to look at the docs.

                                    I would have
                                    never allowed it to execute arbitrary code on my machine without checking it with how… imaginative AI is. And I’m glad I did because it was (very unsurprisingly) often wrong

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                                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                      Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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                                      @volpeon I heard some people at work talking about this the other day, and it just blows my mind that anyone *wants* this. It's not a "force multiplier" or a "game changer", it's a chaos engine and a nightmare. This grift can't fall apart fast enough.

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                                      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                        Support hotlines and the person known in the family as the "tech guy" who everyone comes to for help are going to have so much fun with this

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                                        @volpeon wow, at least on linux when you install with random commands, it's usually "download & run the auto-install shell script for this software we maintain", not "copy these commands from the group mind of stackoverflow directly into your terminal"

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                                        • patterfloof@meow.socialP patterfloof@meow.social

                                          @volpeon wow, at least on linux when you install with random commands, it's usually "download & run the auto-install shell script for this software we maintain", not "copy these commands from the group mind of stackoverflow directly into your terminal"

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                                          @patterfloof @volpeon And even THEN, the stackoverflow answerers actually know what they're talking about, in theory!

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