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  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

    That guy who's testing my application keeps messaging me about wrong calculations, i.e. different results compared to the old app.

    My colleague in Christ,
    you have to fix that shit, not me. Your rules use different values than before. ​​

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    @volpeon Quite a few years ago one location was fully renovated, with new machines and new control system.

    The local management was completely 110% refusing to understand those are very different internally with different workflows and insisting on stuff like "we had good (tuning parameters) in the old one. Set the new one so the machine also does three zigs left for every zag right. We don't need to test anything we know those are the good numbers. Give me my good numbers."

    It took many years (and two changes of management) until someone actually dared to ask how the things are supposed to work and how they should be tuned for performance.

    Just "reset to defaults" of sort - bringing in the baseline config profile from the manufacturer you're supposed to use as starting point for tuning - given them a massive boost.

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    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

      That guy who's testing my application keeps messaging me about wrong calculations, i.e. different results compared to the old app.

      My colleague in Christ,
      you have to fix that shit, not me. Your rules use different values than before. ​​

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      He sent a message: "(thing) is gone". The thing has in fact been moved from a box on the right side to a box on the left side, and the boxes are directly next to each other.
      My god, would you open your fucking eyes PLEASE.

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      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

        He sent a message: "(thing) is gone". The thing has in fact been moved from a box on the right side to a box on the left side, and the boxes are directly next to each other.
        My god, would you open your fucking eyes PLEASE.

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        @volpeon My mom calls it "man vision". Unless a thing looks like you'd expect and is where you'd expect to find it, it's as if invisible to you. Apparently I have it too.

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        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

          He sent a message: "(thing) is gone". The thing has in fact been moved from a box on the right side to a box on the left side, and the boxes are directly next to each other.
          My god, would you open your fucking eyes PLEASE.

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          "There's this huge difference in the result. In the old version I get X, but now it's 13 more?"
          My guy, have you forgotten to change the option so that the calculation uses the same values as the old version? Which happens to amount to 13 less?
          HOLY FUCK, PLEASE THINK FOR A MINUTE

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          • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

            He sent a message: "(thing) is gone". The thing has in fact been moved from a box on the right side to a box on the left side, and the boxes are directly next to each other.
            My god, would you open your fucking eyes PLEASE.

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            @volpeon Dear god... @.@

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            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

              "There's this huge difference in the result. In the old version I get X, but now it's 13 more?"
              My guy, have you forgotten to change the option so that the calculation uses the same values as the old version? Which happens to amount to 13 less?
              HOLY FUCK, PLEASE THINK FOR A MINUTE

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              @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip At some point you will lose all reasoning and go feral. The only question is when will this appear.

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              • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                "There's this huge difference in the result. In the old version I get X, but now it's 13 more?"
                My guy, have you forgotten to change the option so that the calculation uses the same values as the old version? Which happens to amount to 13 less?
                HOLY FUCK, PLEASE THINK FOR A MINUTE

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                @volpeon Is this an update to an application that is already in production?

                If so, then it's probable that the guy testing your application is meant to be a typical user, and typical users kind of work a bit brainlessly like that and need hand-holding through post-update changes with a lot of in-your-face prompts that annoy the shit out of those of us who stop and think for a moment.

                But if not and this is an entirely new application, then... wtf???

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                • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                  "There's this huge difference in the result. In the old version I get X, but now it's 13 more?"
                  My guy, have you forgotten to change the option so that the calculation uses the same values as the old version? Which happens to amount to 13 less?
                  HOLY FUCK, PLEASE THINK FOR A MINUTE

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                  I specifically added a popup to show what rules are applied for the calculation and even what each rule does on detail, so everything is right there. Yet he still sends me messages about why the result is different than he expected, when taking a look would give him all the answers.
                  "Why is the last rule not applied?"
                  I don't know, could it be because, AS THE POPUP SHOWS, an earlier rule is applied which ends the calculation so it never reaches the last one? MAYBE???

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                  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                    I specifically added a popup to show what rules are applied for the calculation and even what each rule does on detail, so everything is right there. Yet he still sends me messages about why the result is different than he expected, when taking a look would give him all the answers.
                    "Why is the last rule not applied?"
                    I don't know, could it be because, AS THE POPUP SHOWS, an earlier rule is applied which ends the calculation so it never reaches the last one? MAYBE???

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                    @volpeon Naaaaaaaah

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                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                      I specifically added a popup to show what rules are applied for the calculation and even what each rule does on detail, so everything is right there. Yet he still sends me messages about why the result is different than he expected, when taking a look would give him all the answers.
                      "Why is the last rule not applied?"
                      I don't know, could it be because, AS THE POPUP SHOWS, an earlier rule is applied which ends the calculation so it never reaches the last one? MAYBE???

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                      I literally don't know how to make this any easier. I'm knowledgeable about UI design, I've done it for 2 decades at this point, so it's not like this is one of those engineer UIs which only cares about exposing all functionality without an intuitive structure and hierarchy.

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