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@waifu are you a mathematical genius though?

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@Suiseiseki @RedTechEngineer @mia like with the whole computer industry, they are not really special in that regard.

@Suiseiseki @RedTechEngineer @mia it doesn't change the fact about vendor being unable to write drivers for what they literally made

@Suiseiseki @RedTechEngineer @mia does vendor's u-boot and atf forks can be considered proprietary software?

They published the source code. And there is nothing in between except what's in maskrom

@mia @Suiseiseki @RedTechEngineer I love installing vendor fork of linux 4.19 with broken drivers for all IP blocks made by them in house in 2025

@bagder ok then, good

@Suiseiseki installing coreboot fork that somebody else made for you isn't programming.

I mean, you're right about booting on average ARM SoC being bad, but not for the reasons you think it is and especially solutions don't make any sense.

@Suiseiseki many don't have but also many do have and it's used.

What to do with them?

Read some manuals and get real experience programming computers, dude.

@bagder forgot to tell you, keep in mind it might not be built the way you want. Plus GCC includes the static build of it and it's possible to accidentally link with what it includes.

@Suiseiseki but that's the thing with BIOS.

You need int 10h to interact with it, even set up the video mode.

@Suiseiseki there is.

Not only you need io ports, though those usually are presented mmio on non-x86 architectures, you also need some interrupt vectors, to act like int 10h on x86.

But what's the point of simulating that if there is UEFI

@Suiseiseki BIOS isn't properly standardized either. It's pretty much x86 specific

@Suiseiseki how about SBCs that have UEFI

@bagder it directly parses DWARF and can (though, that relies on UB) work from the signal handler.

Plus it's not really that platform specifics as uses unwinder from C++ (that _Unwind_Backtrace call)

@bagder libbacktrace by Ian Lance Taylor

@lanodan @tiredbun I wanna go to karaoke...