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💡 Did You Know: When animals tilt their heads when looking at something they're using gravity to move the thoughts from one half of they brain to another!Did You Know: When animals tilt their heads when looking at something they're using gravity to move the thoughts from one half of they brain to another!
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Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon a private group that does indeed own it's posts could be presumably re-implemented as a separate thing entirely based on shared logic with a hypothetical "circles" functionality -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon additionally, if we're preventing groups from "owning" posts, then we can think of groups just as "hashtags with quality control" and therefore options like "automatically syndicate from group X" become viable solutions to the fragmentation problem (do i post on linux@lemmy.ml or linux@lemmy.world or linux@programming.dev) -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon yup. groups for discoverability, tags for categorization
some shortcomings of groups could be rectified by allowing posts to be in multiple groups (however: this would issues when moderating replies. perhaps preventing groups from moderating replies and letting fedi's high moderator-to-user ratio take care of that would be ideal?), and making "remove from group" "detach" the group from the post without removing it outright so your own followers could still interact with it -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@Shivaekul @volpeon but hashtags are a whole are "poisoned". that's my argument. as long as the cultural legacy of hashtags remain as "the things you spam under posts to get someone to notice you" then you just can't build that culture.
groups (as a concept) are much better for discoverability in my experience, as there are moderators who make sure you are not abusing the group for spam. hashtags are the wild west, and "do not post silly things under hashtags" is not exactly an enforceable rule, especially for people accustomed to how hashtags work from other microblogs -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon (this is something i am thinking of exploring with outpost, but it'll be a while for that to happen, if ever) -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon given Hashtags as a concept are "dead", what do?
i think the answer. in a microblogging-compatible paradigm anyhow, is creating a second, evil kind of tag, where opting into discoverability is an intentional choice (perhaps keeping Hashtag as the discoverable version, and the new tag as the non-discoverable version)
these new tags would be out-of-band ONLY, and just as a cherry on top, let's make them a tree as well, so you can tag a post with, say,tv show.season 2.spoiler
and it would additionally get categorized undertv show
andtv show.season 2
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Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon (very intentionally made this reply unlisted if anyone operates a hashtag-based discoverability mechanism which does not take visiblity into account please reconsider your life choices) -
Some additional thoughts on why alt accounts don't seem to work here even though people have no issues participating in multiple separate forums.@volpeon tbh the main problem here seems to be the microblogging paradigm's conflation of "categorization" with "discoverability" (so, hashtags)
in every other paradigm out there putting a #linux tag on your writing, or posting it under a "linux" category, would not be any deal, nobody would prolly notice it consciously. but conflating them with #discoverability leads to #TagSpamming and makes the concept of #tagging as a whole look like a #brand account looking for #attention
tagging (and implicitly, filtering in or out by tags) would solve this particular problem, but the primary influence on the entire network (whether anyone likes it or not) being a 1-1 clone of twitter with a sprinkling of bluesky which is itself a more unabashed clone of twitter, means that tags are effectively "dead" as a concept -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e. -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e. -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e. -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e. -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e.@gabboman @volpeon @makiki but again the important decentralization part is the appview, there are not many of yet. this is getting easier with things like constellation and slices which may end up resulting in "appviewless" apps that build on top of those general purpose indexes (like tangled.sh/@whey.party/red-dwarf)
you'd still need people to rehost them but you'd get more functionality for the resources you spend on that compared to rehosting the bluesky appview -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e.@gabboman @volpeon @makiki if someone from a relay that does not know about you replies to, that relay may very well decide to end up start listening to you as well. so as long as one relay knows about you then the rest will get to you automagically soon enough. some do also bootstrap themselves by going through every entry in did:plc (which is centralized still, so easy to do) -
When discussing Bluesky, people on here really need to stop thinking in terms of instances, i.e.@gabboman @volpeon @makiki the TLDR here is that "you do not 'go to' a relay, a relay 'comes to' you". extremely common mistake
'moving a pds to a different relay' does not really mean anything as the PDS relay configuration simply means your pds politely tells that relay (through a public, unauthenticated endpoint anyone can point curl on your behalf to) it exists. the relay may or may not end up caring -
API's with emoji reactions reject invalid emojis.@volpeon in fedi at least, what an emoji is additionally differs between software, unrelated to unicode releases