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>win10 is eol, people are "supposedly" throwing away their working computers because they can't install win11

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  • a1ba@suya.placeA a1ba@suya.place
    >win10 is eol, people are "supposedly" throwing away their working computers because they can't install win11

    this is most stupid take I've ever heard

    your average joe doesn't even care that win10 is eol, he will continue to use it even if there won't be any updates

    if anything, that average joe hated updates
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    @a1ba win10 eol is a psyop to sell more linux

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    • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
      @a1ba and companies throw away computers pretty much the moment they're out of warranty, so the OS doesn't matters
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      @lanodan @a1ba
      Depends on the company but yes most of these morrons do throw them out because they don't know better. Subcontracting to companies doesn't help either.

      But he has a point tho, most average joe hate change. If microsoft and co would respond to the market demand instead of creating it they'd still be running windows xp and people would still use skype.
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        @a1ba i know someone who still uses vista
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        @chjara https://youtu.be/e2qY8JtjJag?t=38
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          @a1ba isn't that more about businesses? Where they just see "EOL" and think they instantly need to buy a new one

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          @semiramis I don't think even businesses care
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          • bogdan@antifedifedi.clubB bogdan@antifedifedi.club

            @a1ba win10 eol is a psyop to sell more linux

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            @bogdan I don't mind but it feels like it's missing the point...
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            • mangeurdenuage@shitposter.worldM mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
              @lanodan @a1ba
              Depends on the company but yes most of these morrons do throw them out because they don't know better. Subcontracting to companies doesn't help either.

              But he has a point tho, most average joe hate change. If microsoft and co would respond to the market demand instead of creating it they'd still be running windows xp and people would still use skype.
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              @mangeurdenuage @lanodan @a1ba
              >Depends on the company but yes most of these morrons do throw them out because they don't know better. Subcontracting to companies doesn't help either.
              And in the age of soldered SSDs, some companies don't even bother wiping the disks before giving the laptops to recyclers. They just drill a hole through the laptop where the SSD is and call it a day.
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                @mangeurdenuage @lanodan @a1ba
                >Depends on the company but yes most of these morrons do throw them out because they don't know better. Subcontracting to companies doesn't help either.
                And in the age of soldered SSDs, some companies don't even bother wiping the disks before giving the laptops to recyclers. They just drill a hole through the laptop where the SSD is and call it a day.
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                @phnt @mangeurdenuage @a1ba Well at the same time SSDs I don't think you can wipe them out at 100% if some sectors got taken as "used up" by the firmware.
                So you'd need disk encryption, which they should be doing anyway because computers can get stolen quite easily.
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                • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                  @phnt @mangeurdenuage @a1ba Well at the same time SSDs I don't think you can wipe them out at 100% if some sectors got taken as "used up" by the firmware.
                  So you'd need disk encryption, which they should be doing anyway because computers can get stolen quite easily.
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                  @lanodan @phnt @a1ba
                  > I don't think you can wipe them out at 100
                  It's not possible as the way the controllers a programmed they don't check if the data is properly erased, that's done to avoid further possible quantum effects/reduce usage cycles

                  >which they should be doing anyway because computers can get stolen quite easily
                  Why would they even bother, all is in the cloud these days, the concept of the minitel is so practical itself, no need to worry about data leaking or being stolen :clueless:
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                  • mangeurdenuage@shitposter.worldM mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
                    @lanodan @phnt @a1ba
                    > I don't think you can wipe them out at 100
                    It's not possible as the way the controllers a programmed they don't check if the data is properly erased, that's done to avoid further possible quantum effects/reduce usage cycles

                    >which they should be doing anyway because computers can get stolen quite easily
                    Why would they even bother, all is in the cloud these days, the concept of the minitel is so practical itself, no need to worry about data leaking or being stolen :clueless:
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                    @mangeurdenuage @phnt @lanodan GI wonder how effective GNU shred on modern HDDs and SSDs
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                    • a1ba@suya.placeA a1ba@suya.place
                      >win10 is eol, people are "supposedly" throwing away their working computers because they can't install win11

                      this is most stupid take I've ever heard

                      your average joe doesn't even care that win10 is eol, he will continue to use it even if there won't be any updates

                      if anything, that average joe hated updates
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                      @a1ba@suya.place

                      win10 is eol, people are "supposedly" throwing away their working computers because they can't install win11
                      What heresy is this!
                      Throw them to my garden, please.
                      ๐Ÿ˜€

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                        @a1ba@suya.place

                        win10 is eol, people are "supposedly" throwing away their working computers because they can't install win11
                        What heresy is this!
                        Throw them to my garden, please.
                        ๐Ÿ˜€

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                        @wthinker yeah absolute nonsense
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