@awoo@gts.apicrim.es yeah, but what would that one needs to do with a terminal in a phone?

@awoo I mean one can also just use adb shell

@hypha using ssh to get into its servers, looking at funny graphs in resource monitors (which is especially fascinating to look at in its opinion), using more lightweight programs that still get the job done (unlike apps with their clunky user interfaces sometimes) etc.

@hypha @awoo nix run '.#visor-control'

@MagicLike nah that would be too easy + that would involve a second computer.

@awoo what if that second computer is another android phone

@MagicLike termux and shizuku are the easiest when one wants to keep stuff on the same device (all one needs to do is temporarily expose wireless debugging but that can be en- and disabled within 5 seconds basically since that's how fast shizuku typically is with enabling itself via wireless debugging)

@MagicLike doesn't work, at least in its experience.

@sophie @hypha that too! well tbf it'd be more like "cargo run" in its case since it wouldn't use Nix for that

@awoo nawww would have been a nice cursed experiment

@49016 @sophie @hypha WHAT

it wants to learn more about that now

@awoo @sophie @hypha there's a termux fork that just bootstraps a chroot with nix lol

@49016 @sophie @hypha damn! :3

oh no now it wants to give nix another try-

@awoo @49016 @hypha hehehehe join us in the nix,, :3

@sophie @49016 @hypha on one hand, it would really love to

on the other, it still has ptsd from trying to use nix for a year and effectively torturing itself with configs that broke pretty quickly because they suddenly decided to remove a package from nixpkgs while technically still not even having anything reproducible (it couldn't just take its nix config and throw it onto another computer and have everything the same way)

@awoo well termux (the terminal + "distro") provides a package manager and a manageable environment. or you can use the new vm stuff

@awoo @sophie @hypha nix can be a bit of a pain in the ass but in its opinion it can pay out in the end

@chfour thing is, it really would like to have something directly on android instead of via termux (which, in terms of resource monitors, has limitations imposed by google (it can only see itself and the total usage maybe)) or via the android virtualisation framework thingy (which only sees itself because it's a VM)

@49016 @sophie @hypha but arch is too comfy to move