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trying to use a terminal on android makes it wish that it had a linux phone instead

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  • hypha@mastodon.catgirl.cloudH hypha@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

    @awoo@gts.apicrim.es yeah, but what would that one needs to do with a terminal in a phone?

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    @hypha @awoo nix run '.#visor-control'

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    • magiclike@soc.sekundenklebertransportverbot.deM magiclike@soc.sekundenklebertransportverbot.de

      @awoo I mean one can also just use adb shell

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      @MagicLike nah that would be too easy + that would involve a second computer.

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      • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

        @MagicLike nah that would be too easy + that would involve a second computer.

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        @awoo what if that second computer is another android phone

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        • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

          @MagicLike nah that would be too easy + that would involve a second computer.

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          @MagicLike termux and shizuku are the easiest when one wants to keep stuff on the same device (all one needs to do is temporarily expose wireless debugging but that can be en- and disabled within 5 seconds basically since that's how fast shizuku typically is with enabling itself via wireless debugging)

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          • magiclike@soc.sekundenklebertransportverbot.deM magiclike@soc.sekundenklebertransportverbot.de

            @awoo what if that second computer is another android phone

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            @MagicLike doesn't work, at least in its experience.

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            • sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

              @hypha @awoo nix run '.#visor-control'

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              @sophie @hypha that too! well tbf it'd be more like "cargo run" in its case since it wouldn't use Nix for that

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              • sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                @hypha @awoo nix run '.#visor-control'

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                @sophie @hypha @awoo nix on android works surprisingly well though!

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                • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                  @MagicLike doesn't work, at least in its experience.

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                  @awoo nawww would have been a nice cursed experiment

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                  • 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud4 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                    @sophie @hypha @awoo nix on android works surprisingly well though!

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                    @49016 @sophie @hypha WHAT

                    it wants to learn more about that now

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                    • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                      @49016 @sophie @hypha WHAT

                      it wants to learn more about that now

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                      @awoo @sophie @hypha there's a termux fork that just bootstraps a chroot with nix lol

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                      • 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud4 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                        @awoo @sophie @hypha there's a termux fork that just bootstraps a chroot with nix lol

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                        @49016 @sophie @hypha damn! :3

                        oh no now it wants to give nix another try-

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                        • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                          @49016 @sophie @hypha damn! :3

                          oh no now it wants to give nix another try-

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                          @awoo @49016 @hypha hehehehe join us in the nix,, :3

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                          • sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS sophie@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                            @awoo @49016 @hypha hehehehe join us in the nix,, :3

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                            @sophie @49016 @hypha on one hand, it would really love to

                            on the other, it still has ptsd from trying to use nix for a year and effectively torturing itself with configs that broke pretty quickly because they suddenly decided to remove a package from nixpkgs while technically still not even having anything reproducible (it couldn't just take its nix config and throw it onto another computer and have everything the same way)

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                            • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                              "wait, hold on, how did you get a shell on android-" termux and shizuku. :neobot_smol:

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                              @awoo well termux (the terminal + "distro") provides a package manager and a manageable environment. or you can use the new vm stuff

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                              • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                                @sophie @49016 @hypha on one hand, it would really love to

                                on the other, it still has ptsd from trying to use nix for a year and effectively torturing itself with configs that broke pretty quickly because they suddenly decided to remove a package from nixpkgs while technically still not even having anything reproducible (it couldn't just take its nix config and throw it onto another computer and have everything the same way)

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                                @awoo @sophie @hypha nix can be a bit of a pain in the ass but in its opinion it can pay out in the end

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                                • chfour@wetdry.worldC chfour@wetdry.world

                                  @awoo well termux (the terminal + "distro") provides a package manager and a manageable environment. or you can use the new vm stuff

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                                  @chfour thing is, it really would like to have something directly on android instead of via termux (which, in terms of resource monitors, has limitations imposed by google (it can only see itself and the total usage maybe)) or via the android virtualisation framework thingy (which only sees itself because it's a VM)

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                                  • 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud4 49016@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                    @awoo @sophie @hypha nix can be a bit of a pain in the ass but in its opinion it can pay out in the end

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                                    @49016 @sophie @hypha but arch is too comfy to move 😞

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                                    • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                                      @49016 @sophie @hypha but arch is too comfy to move 😞

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                                      @awoo@gts.apicrim.es @49016 @sophie nix can be installed on arch

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                                      • hypha@mastodon.catgirl.cloudH hypha@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                        @awoo@gts.apicrim.es @49016 @sophie nix can be installed on arch

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                                        @hypha @49016 @sophie thing is, either it starts over with nixos, or it just stays on arch. it can't just mix-and-match since that will result in this one half-assing configurations instead of building something properly for once.

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                                        • awoo@gts.apicrim.esA awoo@gts.apicrim.es

                                          @chfour thing is, it really would like to have something directly on android instead of via termux (which, in terms of resource monitors, has limitations imposed by google (it can only see itself and the total usage maybe)) or via the android virtualisation framework thingy (which only sees itself because it's a VM)

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                                          @chfour oh and google recently broke file access for apps like termux since it can't even access /storage/emulated/0 via termux anymore. all it gets is a cd: /storage/emulated/0: Permission denied.

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